can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basic outline and then what the house republican take away, well, we'll deal with the tough issues later, always been there. >> dave: kick the can down the road. >> move on. >> juliet: let's go to the story that we've been covering here shall the hobby lobby story, this is a faith-based business and they decided they're going to risk paying potential fines up to 1.3 million dollars a day because they're refusing to provide the morning after pill to employees, it does not go with their beliefs. what do you make of that story? >> and by the way my christmas tree came from hobby lobby and i think it's incumbent upon every conservative who believes in freedom of religion and freedom of conscience to support nos businesses that are standing up and taking the slings and